{"id":17875,"date":"2018-07-18T12:31:36","date_gmt":"2018-07-18T12:31:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/unioninarutam-tr.local\/arutam-ruyman-ile-soylesi-el-tanque-santa-cruz-tenerife\/"},"modified":"2025-05-31T21:12:41","modified_gmt":"2025-05-31T21:12:41","slug":"arutam-ruyman-ile-soylesi-el-tanque-santa-cruz-tenerife","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/unioninarutam.org\/tr\/arutam-ruyman-ile-soylesi-el-tanque-santa-cruz-tenerife\/","title":{"rendered":"Arutam Ruym\u00e1n ile s\u00f6yle\u015fi.El Tanque, Santa Cruz ,Tenerife"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>YOL BOYUNCA \u00d6\u011eREN\u0130LEN DERSLER HAKKINDA B\u0130R SORU<\/h3>\n<p><b>Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131:<\/b> Natem (Ayahuasca) bizi karanl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcr m\u00fc?<\/p>\n<p><b>Ruym\u00e1n:<\/b> Natem&#8217;in bizi karanl\u0131\u011fa s\u00fcr\u00fckledi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyemem: Ayahuasca&#8217;n\u0131n bizi Ruh&#8217;un derinliklerine dald\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve Ruh&#8217;a ula\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, her g\u00fcn besledi\u011fimiz karanl\u0131k e\u011filimleri g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc s\u00f6yleyebilirim; onlar\u0131n sefaletini ve karanl\u0131k perdesini hissedebiliyoruz. Onlar\u0131 oldu\u011fu gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz ve i\u00e7imizde nas\u0131l b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fcklerini g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Ama bunu yapmasayd\u0131k, Natem&#8217;in trans\u0131 sadece Ruh&#8217;un saf parlakl\u0131\u011f\u0131 olurdu: saf \u0131\u015f\u0131k ve g\u00fczellik, t\u0131pk\u0131 Hayat&#8217;\u0131n kendisi gibi.  <\/p>\n<p><b>Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131:<\/b> Ayahuasca bana kendimin karanl\u0131k yanlar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterdi\u011finde mide bulant\u0131s\u0131 hissetmeye ba\u015fl\u0131yorum. O karanl\u0131ktan ka\u00e7mam gerekti\u011fini hissediyorum, oraya gitmek istemiyorum. <\/p>\n<p><b>Ruym\u00e1n:<\/b> Hay\u0131r, tam tersine: \u00e7ok merakl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde, korkmadan bakmal\u0131s\u0131n. I\u015f\u0131k yand\u0131\u011f\u0131nda, her \u015fey netle\u015fti\u011finde ve d\u00fczenli olarak besledi\u011fin t\u00fcm sefaleti, kendi i\u00e7inde b\u00fcy\u00fcmesine ve \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fcmesine izin verdi\u011fin t\u00fcm sefaleti g\u00f6rebildi\u011finde, ona ger\u00e7ekten merakl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde bakmal\u0131 ve kendine sormal\u0131s\u0131n: Bakal\u0131m&#8230; Bu ne? Neden i\u00e7imde bu \u015fey var? Zihnimin hangi k\u0131sm\u0131 o kadar hasta ki bu pisli\u011fi besleyebildi? B\u00f6ylece ara\u015ft\u0131rmaya ve anlamaya ba\u015flars\u0131n\u0131z ve elbette mideniz bulan\u0131r. Ve ger\u00e7ekte olan \u015fey, bunu g\u00f6rmek istememenizdir. Bunun ke\u015ffedilmesini istemiyorsunuz. Bunun g\u00f6r\u00fclmesini istemiyorsunuz. Etinizi \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fcten g\u00f6lge o kadar korkun\u00e7 ki, ona kar\u015f\u0131 tam bir reddedilme hissedersiniz. Ve \u00e7o\u011fu zaman bu, ondan kurtulmak istedi\u011finiz i\u00e7in olur, ama ayn\u0131 zamanda o g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcn\u00fcn yo\u011funlu\u011funu durdurmak istedi\u011finiz i\u00e7in de olabilir, b\u00f6ylece daha derine inmek zorunda kalmazs\u0131n\u0131z. Ama yine de bakmak zorundas\u0131n\u0131z! O g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcye bakmal\u0131, ona ula\u015fmal\u0131 ve onu ger\u00e7ekten \u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fczde g\u00f6rebilene kadar \u00e7ok \u00e7abalamal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, sonra da ona bir a\u00e7\u0131klama bulmal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z: \u201cAh, demek bu y\u00fczden yap\u0131yorum&#8230; Ben bunu yap\u0131yorum.\u201d Ve sonra kendinize \u015f\u00f6yle dersiniz: \u201cTanr\u0131m, bunu neden daha \u00f6nce fark etmedim?\u201d \u0130\u015fte bu y\u00fczden bir\u00e7ok insan bakmaktan korkar. \u015eamanizm ho\u015f bir yol de\u011fildir. Ger\u00e7ek bir \u015fifa eylemidir. Bilincin ger\u00e7ek uyan\u0131\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. Bir odada \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zda, genellikle \u015f\u00f6yle dersiniz: \u201cEn iyisi kapatay\u0131m.\u201d Ger\u00e7ekle y\u00fczle\u015fiyorsunuz: bu y\u00fczden bu, bir insan\u0131n hayat\u0131nda kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fabilece\u011fi en zorlu g\u00f6revlerden biridir. Bu uyan\u0131\u015f\u0131 ya\u015fayabilirsiniz&#8230; ya da ya\u015famayabilirsiniz. Belki de kendinizi korkak olarak kabul etmeli ve ka\u00e7mal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z.                       <\/p>\n<p>\u00dcniversitede okurken, kitaplarda yazanlar\u0131 yazarsam muhtemelen s\u0131nav\u0131 ge\u00e7ece\u011fimi biliyordum. \u00d6\u011fretmenin \u00f6nerdi\u011fi kitab\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rsan, onu tamamen okursun ve s\u0131navda do\u011fru cevaplar\u0131 verirsin. Muhtemelen s\u0131nav\u0131 ge\u00e7ece\u011fini bilirsin. Okudu\u011funuzu \u00e7o\u011fu zaman anlamasan\u0131z bile. Gen\u00e7ken, \u015famanizmin yolunu \u00f6\u011frenirken kendime sorard\u0131m: Bir g\u00fcn b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimin bana \u00f6\u011frettiklerini \u00f6\u011frenebilecek miyim? Onlar\u0131n sahip oldu\u011fu huzura, derinli\u011fe, varl\u0131kla birli\u011fe ula\u015fabilecek miyim? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bug\u00fcn bunu g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum ama emin de\u011filim. Bu bilgiye ula\u015fmak istiyorum ama ba\u015farabilir miyim bilmiyorum! Her neyse: Bunu elde etmek istiyorum! Ama yapam\u0131yorum! Zaman\u0131m\u0131 bo\u015fa m\u0131 harc\u0131yorum? Onlar\u0131n sahip oldu\u011fu zihin durumunda \u00f6lecek miyim? Korku, belirsizlik ve soru: ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m? Bu, kendimin yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u015fkence. Kendimi bunu yapmaya ve bakmaya te\u015fvik ederek muhtemelen mide bulant\u0131s\u0131 hissedece\u011fim: \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc o g\u00f6lgeleri g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum, i\u00e7imdekileri g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum, yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m hatalar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Ama ayn\u0131 zamanda yaral\u0131 gururumun g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc de hissediyorum ve bu hatalar\u0131 d\u00fczeltmek zorunda kalmak beni \u00f6fkelendiriyor. Sonra savunmaya ge\u00e7iyorum ve k\u00f6t\u00fc tepki veriyorum. Her zaman ayn\u0131 kendini yok etme girdab\u0131.              <\/p>\n<p>Ama biliyor musun? Ben y\u0131llarca normal bir hayat ya\u015fad\u0131m. Ya\u015fl\u0131lar\u0131n ve \u00e7evremdeki insanlar\u0131n hayatlar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l \u00e7\u00f6pe att\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 yeterince g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Ben de \u00f6yle olmak istemedi\u011fimi biliyordum. Ger\u00e7ek mutlulu\u011fun orada olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyordum. Ayr\u0131ca g\u00f6zlerimi kapatt\u0131\u011f\u0131mda \u00f6\u011fretmenlerimde g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm huzuru hissedemeyece\u011fimi de biliyordum, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc onlar sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 ve g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fcyd\u00fc ve \u00f6\u011frettiklerini biliyorlard\u0131. Ve \u00f6\u011frencilerini nas\u0131l iyile\u015ftireceklerini de biliyorlard\u0131. Sonra kendime dedim ki: Ben de bunu istiyorum. Biraz irade, biraz inan\u00e7la &#8211; bu kelimeyi pek sevmem, ama bazen g\u00fczel bir anlam\u0131 da vard\u0131r &#8211; Shuar \u015eamanizminde nesilden nesile aktar\u0131lan her \u015feyin do\u011fru oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rebildim. Ve bu bilginin y\u00fczlerce, binlerce y\u0131ld\u0131r hayatta kalmas\u0131n\u0131n iyi bir nedeni oldu\u011funu anlad\u0131m. Ve bunu \u015fahsen kontrol edebildim. Kendime uygulayabildim.           <\/p>\n<h3>YORUMLA \u0130LG\u0130L\u0130 SORU<\/h3>\n<p>Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131: Vizyonlar\u0131mda saat ibresi vard\u0131, bunun ne anlama gelebilir? Kozmosu gezerken, kozmik bir gemi, bir uzay gemisi g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. O geminin giri\u015f kap\u0131s\u0131na yakla\u015f\u0131yordum, pencereden i\u00e7eri girdim \u2013 \u00e7ok temizdi \u2013 ve orada saat ibresi g\u00f6rmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m, ilk ba\u015fta b\u00fcy\u00fck g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyordu, sonra k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcld\u00fcler. B\u00fcy\u00fckten k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fc\u011fe do\u011fru gittiler.    <\/p>\n<p><b>Ruym\u00e1n:<\/b> Bir bakal\u0131m. O, sa\u011flam kimli\u011fiyle kozmosun i\u00e7indeydi ve kozmosu gezmek i\u00e7in yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f bir makineye giriyordu. Sonra o kat\u0131 makinenin mekanizmas\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rmeye ba\u015flad\u0131. Ya\u015fam kristali arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla, saatin daha k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck par\u00e7alara ayr\u0131lmaya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fc, mekanik yap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6stererek, ta ki makinenin ruhu olan motora ula\u015fana kadar. Sanki onun \u00f6z\u00fcne do\u011fru gidiyormu\u015f gibi. Biraz kat\u0131 bir ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7tan, evrende bir makine i\u00e7inde seyahat eden egodan -y\u0131ld\u0131zlara do\u011fru par\u0131ldayan \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131n tam \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden yoksun, galaksilere bilin\u00e7 veren uzay\u0131n t\u00fcm o karanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7inde-, o makineyi k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck par\u00e7alara ay\u0131rmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Bu, derin Natem&#8217;in g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc yo\u011funlu\u011fu i\u00e7inde, Yaji yapraklar\u0131na \u00f6zg\u00fc bir ayr\u0131\u015fma s\u00fcreciydi. B\u00f6ylece, her \u015fey yok olana ve makinenin par\u00e7alar\u0131na ula\u015fana kadar bir ayr\u0131\u015fma s\u00fcreci ya\u015fand\u0131.        <\/p>\n<h3>V\u0130ZYONLARIN GEL\u0130\u015e\u0130M\u0130 HAKKINDA B\u0130R SORU<\/h3>\n<p><b>Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131: <\/b>Birka\u00e7 seremonilere kat\u0131ld\u0131m ve ilk seremonide bir hikaye g\u00f6rmeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 hissettim ve bu hikaye sonraki seremonilerde gittik\u00e7e daha ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bir \u015fekilde geli\u015fti. \u00d6rne\u011fin, ilk seremonide \u00e7ok g\u00fczel bir puma vard\u0131. Sonraki seremonilerde o pumay\u0131 daha ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bir \u015fekilde tekrar g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Bu, par\u00e7alar halinde geli\u015fen bir hikaye mi?   <\/p>\n<p><b>Ruym\u00e1n:<\/b> Hay\u0131r, hay\u0131r. Seremoniler Arutam ile sonsuz bir evlilikte kendimizi b\u0131rakman\u0131n bir yoludur. Ayahuasca&#8217;n\u0131n ayd\u0131nlat\u0131c\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fclerinin karanl\u0131k tad\u0131nda, hi\u00e7bir \u00e7aba sarf etmeden t\u00fcm varolu\u015fla birle\u015fmenin bir yoludur. Hayat\u0131m\u0131zda ne zaman yanl\u0131\u015f yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, kendimize ne zaman zarar verdi\u011fimizi bilmenin bir yoludur. Zihnin hala mekanik, do\u011frusal, s\u0131radan. Zaman\u0131 direni\u015fiyle k\u00f6lele\u015ftiren, sonsuzlu\u011funun ger\u00e7ekli\u011fini ac\u0131 bir \u015fekilde gizleyen bir zihin. Belki yava\u015f yava\u015f baz\u0131 \u015feyleri anl\u0131yorsunuz. Her neyse, sizde olumlu bir geli\u015fme g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Ve bence devam edeceksin. Her zaman daha iyi ve daha iyi. Biraz daha \u00e7aba g\u00f6stermeye, biraz daha b\u0131rakmaya ve referanslar\u0131 unutmaya ba\u015flamal\u0131s\u0131n. Kimli\u011finden bakarak, hayat\u0131nda daha fazla rahatl\u0131k ve \u0131\u015f\u0131k bul. Eminim ba\u015faracaks\u0131n.            <\/p>\n<p>Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131: Ben de tamamen teslim oldu\u011fum ba\u015fka deneyimlerim oldu. Bu ne anlama gelebilir? <\/p>\n<p><b>Ruym\u00e1n: <\/b>Deneyimin varolu\u015fla tam bir ili\u015fki haline geldi\u011fi zaman gelecek. S\u0131radan zihin terk edildi\u011fi ve onu canl\u0131 tutma arzusu &#8211; ve bu arzuya olan inan\u00e7 &#8211; kaybedildi\u011fi s\u00fcrece. \u0130nsan s\u0131k\u0131l\u0131r ve hayat\u0131n \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131nda kalmaya karar verir, t\u0131pk\u0131 ormandaki hayvanlar gibi sonsuza kadar parlamak i\u00e7in.  <\/p>\n<p>Peki, biraz dinlenelim. T\u00fct\u00fcn yapraklar\u0131n\u0131 kontrol edelim. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>YOL BOYUNCA \u00d6\u011eREN\u0130LEN DERSLER HAKKINDA B\u0130R SORU Kat\u0131l\u0131mc\u0131: Natem (Ayahuasca) bizi karanl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcr m\u00fc? 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