{"id":14122,"date":"2025-03-28T13:28:12","date_gmt":"2025-03-28T13:28:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/unioninarutam-en.local\/blog-all\/conversations\/"},"modified":"2025-08-03T19:04:10","modified_gmt":"2025-08-03T19:04:10","slug":"conversations","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/unioninarutam.org\/en\/blog-all\/conversations\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t
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\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\tThe Healing Silence: Medicine, the Shaman\u2019s Work, and Practice as a Way of Life\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t
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In the Amazon, the relationship between person, plant, and shaman is not an isolated ritual but a practice that, over time, transforms habits, perceptions, and ways of being in the world. The voices gathered in the testimony reproduced here speak to this idea: ayahuasca does not appear as a miraculous \u201cproduct\u201d but as a mediator that reveals and sustains inner processes. From intimate experience to ceremonial technique, what emerges is a cultural cartography of healing that combines nature, sound, and spiritual discipline.   The Persistence of the Experience One recurring idea in the conversation is that discoveries made in ceremony \u201cstay inside.\u201d These are not merely fleeting visions; sustained practice produces lasting changes in perception and emotional life. This explains<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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First question Participant: I had a very powerful dream yesterday, with a lot of visions. The whole night. And I was very negative. I have the feeling that I was in a rollercoaster. I think that place was not bearable, or I couldn\u2019t take it\u2026 so I felt I was dying. Once, twice, three times. A thousand times. I think there was nothing left of me. And at the same time I was in peace. Ruym\u00e1n: that\u2019s okey. Participant: At the same time I felt that sense that it was absolutely necessary, and I was grateful that I went through it. That\u2019s crazy. Ruym\u00e1n: It was totally necessary. It was your first vision, right? Participant: When you were chanting, playing<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\tRelevant questions on traditional ayahuasca ceremony\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t
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Participant: In the first week that I was with you, I had very intense visions. They were good, but brief visions. Many things were revealed to me. However, in these last ceremonies, my visions are no longer so intense as they were before. My question is this: is it really important to have visions? Is it possible to achieve the healing effect required without having any vision? Maybe the Great Spirit is angry with me, and that\u2019s why I have no more visions. In the first ceremony my visions were in color, while in the latter, the visions were black and white or gray. You vomited last night? Yes, I usually vomit. After drinking, how long did it take to<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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First question Participant: For the second time, during the second ceremony, I feel fear of death. This fear does not begin immediately, just when Ayahuasca begins to take effect, but a little later, during the night. And I still feel it even at night. Even for most of the day, I was mortified, and so I was asking to see if I could take more. Because I’m really scared. Ruym\u00e1n: You’re afraid to die, you say. Good. Are you sick, do you feel any discomfort? Any problem, some pain? Participant: Consciously, no. Ruym\u00e1n: have the doctors told you there’s anything wrong with you? Participant: No, I’ve had stomach problems, and I’m not yet fully recovered. For example, I have trouble<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\tSome relevant questions to Arutam Ruym\u00e1n after ceremony. Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain.\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t
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Relevant questions on traditional ayahuasca ceremony Participant: In the first week that I was with you, I had very intense visions. They were good, but brief visions. Many things were revealed to me. However, in these last ceremonies, my visions are no longer so intense as they were before. My question is this: is it really important to have visions? Is it possible to achieve the healing effect required without having any vision? Maybe the Great Spirit is angry with me, and that\u2019s why I have no more visions. In the first ceremony my visions were in color, while in the latter, the visions were black and white or gray. You vomited last night? Yes, I usually vomit. After drinking,<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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A QUESTION ABOUT THE LESSONS LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE WAY Participant: Does Natem (Ayahuasca) take us into our darkness? Ruym\u00e1n: I wouldn\u2019t say that Natem leads us into our darkness: I\u2019d rather say that Ayahuasca immerses us into the Spirit\u2019s depths, and as we reach the Spirit, we see those dark tendencies, the ones that we feed daily; we can feel their misery and their dark veil. We see them as they are, and how they grows within us. But if we didn\u2019t do that, Natem’s trance would be just the sheer radiance of the Spirit: pure light and beauty, just as Life itself. Participant: Well, when Ayahuasca shows me those dark parts of myself, I start to feel nauseous. I<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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I’d like to share with you an excerpt of a quary asked by a lady from St. Petersburg: Participant: I\u2019d like to know if you could help me out. I have a sick little daughter. She was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. She had received the unofficial treatment and, although initially there was an improvement, cancer has returned with possible metastasis. Right now the doctors propose to perform a fairly aggressive procedure, but my daughter is in terrible shape, physically and mentally. I think she doesn\u2019t feel like living anymore, and she’s giving in. I really don\u2019t think that I can help her to improve her situation, I don\u2019t know what will happen to her after a new exposure<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t

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Participant: Those who live in Siberia, for instance -where not many plants can be cultivated-: How should they feed themselves? Ruyman: They have to eat meat. Anyway, if I lived there, I would try to eat more fish. As we\u2019ve already said: in the diet, it\u2019s important to minimize the damage that we can make to the body. If the dilemma is between eating fish or bird, it would be interesting to ask ourselves the following question: what is simpler for us? Is it better to kill a bird\u2026 or a fish? When we take Natem: Do we become a fish or a bird? Maybe we\u2019ve not had visions yet, but fish is usually a lot further from our consciousness.<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t\tRead more\t\t<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/article>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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